262: The Smoke & Mirrors of the Mortgage Industry
In this episode, I share my frustration with the "recycled bullshit" that the Canadian mortgage industry is built upon, how I'm redefining the brokerage experience, and why Team Wiley is a 1 of 1 opportunity for brokers and agents.
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Welcome to the mortgage game.
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I truly, truly believe that
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building a mortgage business, a
successful one, is like playing a
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game.
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There's winners, there's losers,
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there's certain things you try.
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Some of us are playing checkers,
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while others are playing chess.
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I've had the ability to coach and
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mentor hundreds of mortgage
brokers.
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I myself built a very nice
business, so now I want to distill
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all that information, all the
things I've learned from that, and
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bring it directly to you in a
simple -to -understand way.
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I hope you enjoy.
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All right.
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Welcome to the Mortgage Game
Podcast.
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West Coast Wiley in the house, in
the Dodge Ram recording studio.
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Man, I've been switching up gears
to left, right, and center here.
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I've been doing some in my office.
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I have videos so I can repurpose
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the content.
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That adds bottlenecks, allows me
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to put out less.
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podcasts like this because I can't
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do them spur of the moment when
stuff's in my brain I want to talk
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about it and so I'm going to go
back to sprinkling in in the truck
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and whatnot but I was just
thinking I was like I've done over
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250 podcasts sitting in my truck
think about that right so if
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there's anything in your world
where you're like has to be
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perfect has to be this wearing a
headset about that right so if
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there's anything in your world
where you're like has to be
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perfect has to be this wearing a
headset OK, just let that sink in
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for a moment.
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This podcast you're listening to
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was me driving around trying to
maximize my time, getting my
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coffee in the morning, much like I
am today.
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Right now I'm waiting outside my
kids.
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And first off, this podcast is
brought to you by Americano.
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Oh, so good.
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I'm waiting for my kids playing
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soccer before school.
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So it's like.
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What do I do?
I could go in there and I could
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watch them.
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I watch about, you know, seven
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hours a week of practices, or I
can spend half that time out here
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recording a podcast of stuff
that's fresh in my mind, right?
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So these are like life lessons as
a mortgage broker.
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Maximize the time you have, record
content, do whatever you need to
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do, wherever you need to do it.
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I'm doing it in my truck.
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There you go.
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Enough on that.
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Okay, I want to talk about
something very, very important
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before we get into what today's
podcast is about.
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But this has been on my mind for a
bit, and I'm just seeing it over
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and over again.
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So as you know, I talk to a lot of
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mortgage brokers every single day.
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Some on my team, some not.
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And I'm starting to see a
recurring theme.
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And I'm starting to see it with
also people in my circle around
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me.
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And the theme is this.
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Most people, I'm connecting with
people through Zoom a lot of
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times.
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they're putting on a very strong
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Zoom face, right?
In the moment, I feel like if you
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just shift six inches for a foot
left, right, up, down, there's
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chaos in people's worlds.
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And so I'm sensing this.
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I know 2021 was a banner year for
a lot of people.
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It definitely was for me.
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Everyone was exhausted, a
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different type of exhaustion.
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There was money in your bank
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account.
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You thought you were the best
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mortgage broker ever.
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Your deals were falling on your
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plate.
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You're like, oh, and then you were
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even, if you probably some of you
were those ones complaining,
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there's too many files, right?
Don't you wish you had that world
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back right now?
So you came out of that.
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And then for the next two years,
you quickly realized that you
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actually don't have a mortgage
business.
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Right.
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You were just sort of winging it,
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reacting, answering emails,
picking up your phone, someone
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called and you're like, shit, I
actually don't have a business.
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I need to go back to basics.
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I need to build an actual physical
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business.
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If I was trying to sell my
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business, people would like pretty
embarrassing what I would be
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showing people.
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So that's not what I talk about.
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I want to talk about how we're at,
where we're at mindset, mental
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wise.
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And so mental health is a big
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buzzword.
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It is a big thing.
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It wasn't talked about enough.
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Probably still comes with some
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negative connotation.
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A lot of people don't want to talk
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about it.
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I'm seeing some people struggling
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going through some things all
around me every single day.
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And this is what I want to tell
you.
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I want to tell you that it's okay.
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It's okay.
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You've got the weight of the world
on your shoulders.
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You're in a commission -based
business doing 13 things on a
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never -ending to -do list, never
feeling like you're getting ahead.
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And then you turn over here and
you've got sick kids, health
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issues, taking care of parents,
taking care of spouses, other
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personal relationships, going
well, not going well.
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You're piling things onto your
shoulders because you want to help
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everybody.
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And nobody's helping you.
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You're not helping yourself.
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There's a reason when the plane's
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going down, they tell you to put
the mask on yourself before you
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put it on anyone else.
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And this is me just going, it's
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okay.
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There are people around you, very
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close to you, who will gladly talk
to you and help you.
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And so I heard this stat on a
podcast list too, and I forget,
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but it was something along the
lines of, I don't need someone to
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fix my problems, but if someone
was just there to listen for, and
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it was either five or eight
minutes, three, four, five, eight
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minutes, let's call it eight
minutes.
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Someone there just to listen for
eight minutes resets me.
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Let's me know I'm not alone in
this world.
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Let's me get things off my chest.
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I'm not looking for answers.
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I'm not looking for even feedback
potentially.
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I just want someone there to
listen to me.
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So I'm telling you, there are
people very close to you that have
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no idea where you're at mindset
wise, what you're battling
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internally.
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And I'm like, I'm battling my own
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shit too.
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I don't have a perfect life.
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There's stuff going on all over
the place.
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There's fires.
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I'm like a firefighter.
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It's like spraying shit out
everywhere.
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Trying to just get through the
next day and stay positive and
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believe in the greater good and
just do things my way.
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And it's working, but man, it's
tough.
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So I'm there with you.
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So there's people around you.
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Use those people.
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It's okay.
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Be vulnerable.
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Ask, hey, can I bend your ear for
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five minutes?
So I'm putting this out there.
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If you and I have a connection of
some sort and you need that ear to
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bend.
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You come find me.
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I'm there.
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If it's to help in your mortgage
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business, don't bother.
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Don't reach out.
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I'm not talking that.
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I'm talking just you personally,
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mindset, head wise.
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You want someone outside of your
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own circle, hit me up.
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Okay.
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Now there's a flip side of this as
well.
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The flip side is there are people
in your circle who are going
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through some shit.
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And it'd be really, really cool.
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If you just checked in and it
wasn't like, how are you doing?
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It's like, hey, do you mind if we
jump on a call?
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And then you're like, hey, I just
want to let you know, man, I'm
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here.
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I'm battling some stuff
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internally.
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I've got things and I just got me
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thinking there's probably other
people I know that are going
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through a bunch of shit.
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So this is just me saying, hey, is
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there anything you want to talk
about?
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I'll just I'll sit here and
listen.
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Right.
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Pretty cool.
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You could do that.
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So that's what I want to talk
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about here.
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That's not the podcast, but that's
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just like a thing I wanted to
throw in there.
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I've been wanting to do that for a
while.
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This segment has been brought to
you by Americano.
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All right.
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Now let's get into, let's get into
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what the podcast is actually about
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Okay.
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Not as important as what we just
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talked about though, because that
was some important shit.
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You just need to hear it
sometimes.
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It's okay.
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The sun's coming up tomorrow.
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Nothing's as bad as it seems.
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Nothing's as gray as it seems.
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One foot forward and half the
battle in life is showing up.
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Show up.
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Seriously.
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Show up everywhere.
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Show up for your kids, your
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spouse, your family, your friends.
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Just be there.
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Be there.
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Let them know you're there.
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You can be a fucking tree.
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Just be there.
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Right?
Just you being places, present in
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the moment.
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is half the battle in life okay uh
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let's get into what i talk about
so we're going to talk about so i
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had a broker reach out to me
yesterday and she said and hey if
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you're listening this you know who
you are um a lady i respect she's
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you know a phenomenal mortgage
broker and i've seen the evolution
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of her business and she's like hey
ryan uh i've been hearing rumors
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about your team team wiley and
it's come up a couple times this
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week and i'm like oh shit i hear
rumors all the time let's get into
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what i talk about so we're going
to talk about so i had a broker
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reach out to me yesterday and she
said and hey if you're listening
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this you know who you are um a
lady i respect she's you know a
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phenomenal mortgage broker and
i've seen the evolution of her
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business and she's like hey ryan
uh i've been hearing rumors about
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your team team wiley and it's come
up a couple times this week and
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i'm like oh shit i hear rumors all
the time There's plenty of stuff I
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hear and what's actually the
truth, drastically different.
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I'm like, Kate, what do you got?
She's like, oh, no, it's all good
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stuff.
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I'm like, sweet.
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So what do you, she's like, well,
I've had people ask me about like,
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I'm thinking to join in Team Wiley
and this and that.
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Do you know him?
What do you think of him?
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Oh, yeah, he helped me with my
business and helped me transform
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my business to where it's at
today.
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And he's a great guy and all, but
she's like, I actually didn't know
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what your offer is.
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Like, what is Team Wiley?
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She's like, so I'm calling.
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So tell me about it.
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And I was like, oh, that's
interesting.
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Isn't that refreshing?
You don't know.
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So you go ask.
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That's pretty cool.
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But another thing was, yeah, I
haven't done a good job of
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explaining it because I just
haven't.
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I've been too busy building things
and taking care of people and
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nurturing and building a team and
just building things.
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And so I'm going to talk about it
more.
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And so this is but I'm not going
to talk about the regular pitch
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stuff.
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This isn't about.
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So this podcast is I want to I.
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110 % without a shadow of a doubt,
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believe what we're building is
unlike anything out there in the
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industry, not even close.
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And so I'm going to break that
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down for you.
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And this isn't going to be the
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same old bullshit you hear
everywhere else.
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When I was, I brokered for 13
years, I was with four or five
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different mortgage brokerages.
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And in those time, I will tell you
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right now.
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Were there places I were at where
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I liked the management?
I liked the broker owner, the team
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lead?
100%.
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Did I think they were awesome
people?
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Without a doubt.
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Did I like some of the people I
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worked with?
Yes.
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Did they have access to lenders
and all this stuff?
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Sure.
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Was I getting value for my split?
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Debatable.
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Was my business, without a doubt
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though, was my business better off
being there?
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Did my volumes increase?
Because what I learned there.
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Did I have actual foundational
pieces built into my business
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because of the brokerage or the
team I was on?
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Hell to the no, to the no, no, no.
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Not even close.
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And this is my massive pet peeve
with our industry.
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I love the Canadian mortgage
industry.
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I do.
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It's treated me and my family very
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well.
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I've given a lot to this industry.
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I've helped a lot of people.
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with zero ask, a lot of brokers, a
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lot of clients.
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And I love it.
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I love it all.
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And where I'm at right now is
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where I need to be.
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And it fills my cup and I have
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massive purpose in my life.
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So I'm super happy there.
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But what's interesting is when you
go and you go do the dog and pony
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show with the brokerages you want
to go to, and I went down this
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path many times and I've done it
and it's just all the same
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recycled bullshit.
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Everyone's dressing up the same
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thing a little differently.
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Sometimes, you know, the pig with
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lipstick.
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And sometimes, oh, we've got this
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over here.
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And it's all the same shit.
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No one's addressing the elephant
in the room that I like to call
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the elephant in the room.
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No one's getting in the trenches
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with me.
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All the brokerages I was at.
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It was all high level stuff.
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I was talking to another broker
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yesterday.
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We just joined the team.
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I don't want to one call.
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He's like, I was just joking
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around with a couple other
brokers.
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I know we went to a two day thing
at my last brokerage and it's the
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same shit.
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They're like, okay.
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And you get your pen out and you
get your pad out and you're ready
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to like write down all these ideas
and this training you're going to
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do.
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And they come up there and they're
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like, yeah, I talked to realtors.
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And then that doesn't work.
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Talk to FAs.
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He's like, so then what do we say?
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And then what if they say this?
What do we say?
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Like, what are the tactical
things?
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And they're like, oh, yeah, just
go do a network.
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OK, on to the next speaker.
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And you're sitting there going,
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fuck, I got nothing.
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And that's just an example of what
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a brokerage is all the time.
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It's a bunch of this high level
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chat all over the place.
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And I want to preface this by
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saying I'm not talking about
underwriting.
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Because brokerages, a lot of them
have that dialed in where they
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help you structure files and they
help you place deals.
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I'm not talking about that because
brokers who are doing any sort of
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business don't really need to tap
into that.
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And you have other angles you can
go to to figure out where to place
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a deal, starting with the BDMs,
the BRM, your underwriter, your
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colleagues, other people in the
industry.
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You have the people on your team.
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You have outlets for that.
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I'm not paying a premium.
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If I am a broker doing deals, I'm
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not paying a premium in my split
to get access to someone I may or
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may not talk to about a file once
in a while.
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So I take that off the table.
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To me, when I brokered, that was
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not important.
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I will find out where the deal
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goes.
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It's 2025.
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I have access to a lot of
different opportunities with
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lender spotlight, to colleagues,
to ninjas I know at certain
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lenders, to the lenders
themselves, all that stuff.
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So to me, that's value of 10 years
ago in brokering.
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It's not value I need today.
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And so when I was at my
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brokerages, it was always this
high level talk.
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And I was always so curious.
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How did you get to where you're
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at?
The people at the top.
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And I'd ask the questions and no
one would know or no one would
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share.
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But no one would give me the nuts
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and bolts, the tactical day -to
-day things, what to say, what to
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email, what strategy to use, how
do I implement it?
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And you know why?
Because a lot of them don't have
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it figured out in their own
business.
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So most broker owners, their
number one priority is their own
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book.
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Massive, massive problem if I'm
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joining someone and I need
mentoring and coaching and someone
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in the trenches with me because
I'll never be a priority.
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It's always their book, their
business.
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That's what feeds their family.
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Very few of them are actually
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making money on a team and a
brokerage.
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So that's what feeds that.
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That's their cash cow.
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Okay.
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And then it just so happens they
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got their business up to 30, 40,
60, 70, whatever million.
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And then people are start going,
Hey, you look like you're doing
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good things.
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Can I join your team?
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And you're like, Hey, that makes
me feel good.
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And my strokes, my ego.
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And I'm like, yeah, join my team.
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And then, but it's like, so what
do you offer?
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Well, I don't know.
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I'll be there.
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I'll mentor you.
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What do I do here?
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Okay.
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Oh, you're good.
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And then six months later,
crickets, crickets.
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Oh, I need help.
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What sort of email should I do?
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What sort of email marketing plan
should I have?
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How do I mind my database?
What sort of strategy would you
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put in place for this type of
client?
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How would you approach a room full
of realtors?
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What sort of webinar would you do?
What would the hook?
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And like nothing.
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And it's not because they even
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know the answers because a lot of
them don't.
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They're just grinding away,
drinking from a firehouse, running
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their own business.
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don't really have a business.
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They hire some help, some
assistance, fulfillment.
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And before you know it, you're on
a team with someone who's
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successful as a mortgage broker,
but there's no one there to go in
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the trenches with you, to actually
coach and mentor you on your
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specific needs, your specific,
figure out who your avatar is.
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So when you talk about these
brokerages out there, and this is
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why I wanted to make this podcast.
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I wanted to make it because what
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I'm building, is absolutely
unequivocally 1 million percent
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different.
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It is not the same old bullshit
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being packaged up from everybody
where you go talk to people and
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go, all right, we got the best
thing and come here and you come
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here and we'll give you this and
our culture's this.
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Yeah, well, you know what?
Culture's great, but culture
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doesn't fucking put food on the
table for my family.
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So you have your parties and you
have your stuff and we all sing
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Kumbaya and we help each other out
and blah, blah, blah.
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How do I have a business though?
I want to make money, money,
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money, money.
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I want to make money.
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And the culture is like number
seven, eight, nine, 10 on the
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list.
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And so a lot of the brokerages
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because they don't have the
tactical training on sales and
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marketing.
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and what to do in the trenches.
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They don't have the wherewithal.
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They don't have the skill set to
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teach that.
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They bamboozle people with the
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other stuff.
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And they're like, look at our logo
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and look at our team event.
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We all wear costumes and we go to
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this thing.
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And that's cool.
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Very cool.
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But that's not the type of
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brokerage or team I want to build.
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That's not it.
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We're going to have our version of
that.
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And we already do.
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And we're going to keep doing it.
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But that's not why people are
going to join Team Wiley.
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They're going to join Team Wiley
because they get me in their
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corner doing things with them and
doing things for them.
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So I'm going to give you some
examples.
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This podcast is brought to you by
Americana.
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I could sit here and talk about
the same old shit.
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Hey, our $150 fee is the best in
the industry, which it is, by the
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way.
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Includes all free credit bureaus,
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E &O.
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You get the VIP club.
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You get broker mail, which you can
do drip campaigns.
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No cost.
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Unlimited list.
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You get lender spotlight, the top
access.
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You get Canadian Mortgage App, top
access.
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You get all this stuff, all
included $150.
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No fucking advertising fee.
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I still don't know what that is.
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But your actual $150 a month, I
could start going down that.
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I'm not going to.
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I could talk about, hey, we have
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this many agents and we got this
volume.
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Yeah, yeah, it goes without
saying.
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You get access to all the lenders.
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You get access to volume bonus
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everywhere.
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If you do 3 million a year of
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Scotia, you get put onto a Scotia
pod with a dedicated BRF that
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closes files for you.
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You get top volume bonus at
509
00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:12,859
Manulife.
510
00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:14,599
You get top volume bonus at TD.
511
00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,579
You get top, like, and the list
goes on and on and on.
512
00:17:19,579 --> 00:17:22,660
I'm not going to talk about that.
513
00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:24,680
I'm not going to talk about that.
514
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,680
I'm going to talk about the stuff
that we actually do with you.
515
00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:31,120
So each of you have a different
business.
516
00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:32,060
You have a completely different
business.
517
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,020
So I will come in and audit your
business.
518
00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:35,140
I'll figure out where you're at
right now.
519
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,660
And I will clear your desk of all
this stuff, all the nonsense of
520
00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:41,080
shit that doesn't matter.
521
00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,460
And we will start building the
522
00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:43,980
foundational pieces up.
523
00:17:44,180 --> 00:17:47,460
So every day of the week, there is
524
00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:48,320
some focus training.
525
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,880
And it's the same every Monday.
526
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,460
Email marketing.
527
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,320
Guess what?
528
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720
We're not going to come in.
529
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,340
So here's the cool part.
530
00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:55,860
This is.
531
00:17:55,860 --> 00:17:58,160
I'm going to like pull back the
532
00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,200
business model a bit for you so
you can start to see where my
533
00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,620
head's at and why I came this
angle and why I'm so passionate
534
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:04,880
about it.
535
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,400
So I could sit here and I could
536
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,300
train because I do this training
and strategy hub and I do it.
537
00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:10,700
I've coached over a thousand
brokers.
538
00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:14,320
I've trained them on what to do
for their emails and how to market
539
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,940
to their database every week.
540
00:18:15,940 --> 00:18:16,740
What sort of.
541
00:18:16,740 --> 00:18:18,840
jab, jab, jab, uppercut, jab, jab,
jab, uppercut, value, value,
542
00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:19,880
value, ask, value, value, value,
ask.
543
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,420
And I go through scripts and we
talk and then no one does it.
544
00:18:21,420 --> 00:18:23,420
And that's the downside with
coaching is it's really hard for
545
00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:25,580
me to have massive impact, which
is why I started Team Wiley.
546
00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:27,920
It's why I shut down my one -on
-one coaching.
547
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,060
It's why I stopped taking money at
500 to 750 an hour from people
548
00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:33,060
because I could coach them for
three hours.
549
00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:34,140
Maybe double their business.
550
00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:34,400
Maybe not.
551
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,880
Don't see them again.
552
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,520
I got two, three grand in my
553
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:38,780
pocket.
554
00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:40,580
They go off and have an awesome
555
00:18:40,580 --> 00:18:42,400
life and their broker owner wins.
556
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,920
Not based on anything they did
557
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,360
outside of their licenses there.
558
00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,720
And yet it's because of what I
559
00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:50,640
did, but I'm not getting paid for
that.
560
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,790
And then the people who actually
didn't do the work, they're no
561
00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:53,290
better off.
562
00:18:53,290 --> 00:18:55,050
And that really strikes me to my
563
00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:55,230
core.
564
00:18:55,230 --> 00:18:57,350
So I said, I'm going to fix this.
565
00:18:57,350 --> 00:19:01,130
And so that email marketing, we
could go and train or guess what?
566
00:19:01,130 --> 00:19:02,830
We just do it for you.
567
00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:04,370
So we can train you how to do it
568
00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:06,590
and you could go level your game
up and record videos and fire it
569
00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:06,810
out.
570
00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:09,270
Or we can go build the drip for
571
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:11,590
you, automate your list for you,
get your zaps working.
572
00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:16,210
So if someone books a call in
County and someone opens
573
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:18,650
application Finmo or whatever
submission platform you want, by
574
00:19:18,810 --> 00:19:19,990
the way, we don't care.
575
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:21,310
We're not forcing you.
576
00:19:21,310 --> 00:19:22,190
We're not getting kickbacks from
submission platforms.
577
00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:24,350
So use whatever you like, right?
It's your business.
578
00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:26,050
You're an adult.
579
00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:27,650
You're a business owner, choose,
580
00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:31,050
you know, put your big boy pants
on and choose whatever platform
581
00:19:31,050 --> 00:19:31,330
you want.
582
00:19:31,330 --> 00:19:32,290
I'll never force anything on you.
583
00:19:32,290 --> 00:19:35,710
But if you want to crush your
email marketing and get book
584
00:19:35,710 --> 00:19:39,790
discovery calls from it while you
sleep, then we could train you on
585
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,920
how to do it.
586
00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:44,040
But I already know brokers aren't
587
00:19:44,340 --> 00:19:45,100
going to do it.
588
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,140
So we're just going to do it.
589
00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:48,940
So just as an example, that's what
we do.
590
00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:52,440
Mondays, you come in, we help you
set up the stuff.
591
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,000
We'll actually physically do it
right in front of you.
592
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,400
And I'll write all the emails for
you.
593
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,160
And we'll fire them out for you.
594
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,480
So just click, operate 70 emails
595
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880
going out a year, like clockwork,
like well -written sales emails.
596
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,920
Right?
So that's just an example.
597
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,080
Okay, cool.
598
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,600
Awesome, Ryan.
599
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,060
No one's doing that.
600
00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:06,240
It doesn't exist.
601
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,080
Where is that happening?
Right here.
602
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,900
That's a bottleneck in your
business.
603
00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:11,200
So we could train you to do it, or
we could just help you do it and
604
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,940
do it for you.
605
00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:13,060
We chose to do that.
606
00:20:13,060 --> 00:20:15,460
So, and here's my thought on it.
607
00:20:15,460 --> 00:20:17,060
I could go run my own mortgage
608
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:17,200
business.
609
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,540
On 100%.
610
00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:19,140
I could go broker my own deals.
611
00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,620
I don't do that, by the way.
612
00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:22,360
I don't.
613
00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,020
My energy is on the team.
614
00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:29,260
So number one priority is the
team, not my own book of freaking
615
00:20:29,260 --> 00:20:29,780
business.
616
00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,460
And tell me again, oh, I'm getting
617
00:20:32,460 --> 00:20:33,880
jacked up now.
618
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,770
This is the passion I have for.
619
00:20:35,770 --> 00:20:37,370
This is why the industry is
broken.
620
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:41,850
And I don't want to be, I don't
want Team Wiley to be lumped in
621
00:20:41,850 --> 00:20:44,710
with all the other options out
there because it's not even close.
622
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:46,990
And I'm trying to pull the curtain
back a bit.
623
00:20:46,990 --> 00:20:49,770
So I gave you an example of the
database marketing.
624
00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:50,910
And then the other one's your
database mining.
625
00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:53,430
We will physically sit there with
you every Wednesday and mine your
626
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:54,610
database with you.
627
00:20:54,610 --> 00:20:55,970
We have a rate tracker sheet.
628
00:20:55,970 --> 00:20:58,430
We'll help you get the tracker
sheet up, help you get the data
629
00:20:58,430 --> 00:20:58,630
organized.
630
00:20:58,790 --> 00:20:59,950
We'll give you some best practices
631
00:20:59,950 --> 00:21:01,230
to go get the data organized.
632
00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:03,300
And then we're going to sit there.
633
00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:05,980
We're going to mine it for
opportunities to reach out to your
634
00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:12,320
clients and give you emails to
send and this and that and how to
635
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,820
follow up every single week in the
trenches with you.
636
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,140
Are you doing that at your
brokerage?
637
00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:20,040
Hell to the no. Should that be
something?
638
00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:21,800
Hell to the yeah.
639
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,140
Why isn't it?
640
00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:23,840
I don't know.
641
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,260
You tell me.
642
00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:24,660
I don't agree.
643
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:25,640
I think the standard should be
644
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:25,760
that.
645
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,380
And so guess what?
646
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,400
I show up every Wednesday in a
Zoom room with a group of agents.
647
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,940
And we mine, not my database, but
there.
648
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,880
But here's why I'm doing this.
649
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,760
This is my business model.
650
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,140
I could go write emails from my
own book of business and get my
651
00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:39,800
own deals.
652
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,840
Take out the fact I don't want to
653
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,100
do that model anymore.
654
00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:45,280
I just mentally don't want to talk
655
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,800
to clients.
656
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,660
I feel like I have bigger fish to
657
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:47,860
fry.
658
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:48,400
Take that out.
659
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,500
I could go do that.
660
00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:51,640
I could also mine my own database,
661
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,200
my past database.
662
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,940
And there's deals in there, 100%.
663
00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:57,120
And I could go find them and I
could undo it.
664
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:57,980
But I don't get any leverage
there.
665
00:21:57,980 --> 00:21:58,500
I get leverage.
666
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,160
If I have a team of 50 agents and
667
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,260
I'm writing the emails and we're
sending out 20 ,000 emails a week,
668
00:22:05,260 --> 00:22:08,760
because I get a small piece of the
action off everyone, right?
669
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,960
That's part of being a team lead.
670
00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:10,500
I'm a team lead.
671
00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:11,800
I'm not at a brokerage.
672
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,620
I don't have, or I'm at a
673
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:13,720
brokerage.
674
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:13,820
Sorry.
675
00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:15,260
I don't have a, have a brokerage.
676
00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:16,660
I'm, I have a team under a
677
00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:16,800
brokerage.
678
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:17,760
And so that's mine, your database.
679
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,340
Sure.
680
00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:19,800
Because when you go close and we
681
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,580
do, I get a piece of action.
682
00:22:21,580 --> 00:22:22,520
but I'm getting leverage from my
683
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:22,820
time.
684
00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:26,040
And so I'm building in these
685
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,440
things.
686
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,880
Fridays is content creation.
687
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,160
Thursday is advanced budget and
custom proposal building where we
688
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800
help brokers tell stories through
numbers.
689
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,340
And I give you examples.
690
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,260
We show you how to use the
691
00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:42,420
different calculators based on the
different strategies we're using
692
00:22:42,420 --> 00:22:47,580
with clients at different times to
position it to client, to win the
693
00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:50,080
business and change the
conversation away from price and
694
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,240
product.
695
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,220
and more into a planner and paying
696
00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:53,940
the least amount of interest.
697
00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:54,380
That's Thursdays.
698
00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,220
Tuesdays is prospecting.
699
00:22:55,860 --> 00:22:56,740
We don't prospect together.
700
00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:59,340
We build your prospecting plan for
referral partners and that.
701
00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:00,960
You want to run a webinar.
702
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,360
Guess what?
703
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,280
It's your brokerage building you
webinars and slide decks and
704
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,100
helping you build it to what you
want and then outlining how to
705
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:10,400
present this and then presenting
how to get people to the webinar
706
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,080
and then how to follow up with
those people.
707
00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:13,340
No, that's what we do.
708
00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:15,280
We're doing all these things.
709
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,680
And so this is why I wanted to
just mention this because I'm in
710
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:17,980
the trenches.
711
00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:19,140
in the trenches.
712
00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:23,280
I don't know even a better way to
say that than if you feel like
713
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,200
you're not getting the value you
want.
714
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,800
you feel like you're not getting
the value you want.
715
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,640
That's a conversation you need to
just figure out.
716
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,260
Maybe it's at your current
brokerage.
717
00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:34,740
But I guess the moral of the story
here is Team Wiley is not even
718
00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:35,660
fucking close to anything that's
being offered.
719
00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:38,880
Because nobody, much like I told
my clients when I brokered, you
720
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920
want to go there?
Sure.
721
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,640
Guess what?
You don't get me.
722
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:46,320
And I know what I bring to the
table.
723
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,780
And if I'm in your back pocket and
we're partnered, you are in a
724
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:51,380
phenomenal spot.
725
00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:54,960
And so you can go on your own and
726
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,660
go do it.
727
00:23:56,660 --> 00:23:59,080
But please do not put me in with
728
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,700
them.
729
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:01,340
I am not that.
730
00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:02,020
This is way more.
731
00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:03,900
And I just wanted to share an
732
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,560
insight into that a little bit,
the different stuff we're doing.
733
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,880
We're figuring out the bottlenecks
in mortgage brokers business.
734
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,480
We're removing the bottlenecks and
then building in some done for you
735
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,440
stuff in there.
736
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,640
And guess what?
737
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800
If you want to just check in every
day, we've got accountability
738
00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:17,420
groups.
739
00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:18,340
We've got.
740
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:21,000
prospecting groups every day for
an hour.
741
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,080
We've got a half hour check -in
every morning where you just drop
742
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,180
in.
743
00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:27,920
And if you want to get centered
744
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,560
for the day, keep your momentum
going, you have a question in the
745
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,560
moment, you get daily access to
me, you get daily access to the
746
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,920
support that I built in.
747
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,220
You get daily access to the team.
748
00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:37,320
Yeah.
749
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,040
So this is it.
750
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,540
I'm done talking about Team Wiley.
751
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:41,890
It's just, it irritates the fuck
752
00:24:41,890 --> 00:24:42,510
out of me.
753
00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:44,870
When I go and I hear other people
754
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:49,770
pitch what they got and then I get
lumped in with it, it's not the
755
00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:49,890
case.
756
00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:53,230
There's a lot of bullshit, people
757
00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:55,710
puffing their chests out there.
758
00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:53,610
Our thing does this, our logo,
759
00:24:53,610 --> 00:24:56,030
check out this cool thing.
760
00:24:56,030 --> 00:24:58,990
We've got so much training.
761
00:24:58,990 --> 00:25:00,250
I'm like, yeah, no, you don't.
762
00:25:00,450 --> 00:25:02,150
I love, we can sit down and.
763
00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:02,870
Compare notes.
764
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:03,910
You don't have training, not the
765
00:25:03,910 --> 00:25:05,510
training we're talking about.
766
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:07,430
Oh, and by the way, are you
767
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:12,050
jumping on a one -on -one call?
And can you go into like, right?
768
00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:14,210
So I gotta take a moment here.
769
00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:17,190
This podcast is brought to you by
770
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:17,470
Americana.
771
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:17,650
Okay.
772
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:18,090
That's it, kids.
773
00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:20,250
See, I didn't get into like all
774
00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:23,030
the specifics of what the offer
is.
775
00:25:23,030 --> 00:25:27,490
Oh, and the last thing I'm going
to leave you with, because this
776
00:25:27,490 --> 00:25:29,550
came up in the conversation
yesterday was I'm not.
777
00:25:29,550 --> 00:25:31,410
gouging people on splits.
778
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,410
My splits are beyond fair.
779
00:25:33,410 --> 00:25:38,250
I've had people say they should be
double what I'm paying because I'm
780
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:39,870
playing the long game.
781
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:41,290
This isn't a bait and switch.
782
00:25:41,290 --> 00:25:42,890
I'm not going anywhere.
783
00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:46,190
This is a 10, 15, 20 year plan for
784
00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:46,810
me.
785
00:25:46,810 --> 00:25:48,230
I'm taking small pieces here and
786
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:48,410
there.
787
00:25:48,410 --> 00:25:50,010
showing up every day, giving you
788
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:52,890
tactical things that actually work
in the trenches, helping you out
789
00:25:52,890 --> 00:25:57,910
in the moment, giving you all that
other warm, fuzzy stuff that
790
00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:58,770
everyone else is offering.
791
00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:00,070
I don't even talk about that
792
00:26:00,070 --> 00:26:02,130
because it's like, yeah, is that
your offer?
793
00:26:02,130 --> 00:26:03,150
Is that what you're offering?
Okay, cool.
794
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:03,730
You keep trucking.
795
00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:05,370
I'm going to change things here.
796
00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:08,230
And so bringing all that together
at a split that is way more than
797
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:08,490
fair.
798
00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:10,230
And I've had, because I know the
799
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:10,490
feedback.
800
00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:11,310
I know.
801
00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:15,610
I know the score of the game on
all this stuff.
802
00:26:15,790 --> 00:26:20,790
I'm not making $20 ,000, $30 ,000
off agents every year and not
803
00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:21,130
showing up.
804
00:26:21,130 --> 00:26:23,140
I'm making much smaller amounts
805
00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:25,780
over and over and building
something long -term so that you
806
00:26:25,780 --> 00:26:28,440
can, this is the last brokerage
you ever join.
807
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,660
I'm the last team lead you ever
have.
808
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,840
And we live happily ever after
together for the next 20 years.
809
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,620
That's the vision.
810
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:36,900
OK, and we're there.
811
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:37,520
We're getting there.
812
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,060
We're going to keep evolving.
813
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,820
That's it, kids.
814
00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:41,440
Thank you for listening.
815
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,920
Hopefully you got something from
that.
816
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,540
You can sense my frustration, but
I am changing.
817
00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:49,320
I do want to really change some of
the old bullshit that goes on in
818
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:49,820
our industry.
819
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:50,360
And you know what?
820
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:54,880
Instead of just talk about it, I'm
actually going to do it.
821
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,640
And that's what I'm doing.
822
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,520
OK, that's it, kids.
823
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,780
Enjoy your week.
824
00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:01,100
Peace out.






